A Quick Rant About the Forefathers Fri. Nov 16th, 07
Alright, so I’m sitting down this morning, trying to write a paper about Kant and his metaphysical morals, and I can’t shake this little bur in my side. So allow me to shoot from the hip (in hopes to clear my head for a different train of thought).
I suppose I might just be sleepwalking through life, but I’m still shocked that I run into naively patriotic people — especially in graduate school. Don’t get me wrong, my anarchist friends would never allow me into their club, but I learned somewhere about the 2nd grade that questioning the government and the state of the union is the proper thing to do, which might not even really be the central issue here.
What’s really bugging me is this:
cutting some slack for some old dead guys simply because they gave us a leg up. fuck that.
Question: Did those fellows accomplish something noble in the span of years where they wrote the Declaration of Independence and Constitution?
Majority answer: Yeah, sure. (all those rights, freedoms etc. are pretty cool.)
What? noble? No. Sure they had deft minds for political organization, particularly when their overall interests were at stake, and they certainly gave us a decent shot at freedom under a democracy (representative republic), but let’s not let time do the work for them. Don’t fast forward through time with them as the continual authors. Nah. They dropped the ball in more than one place, and there’s no reason not to mention it. (I really don’t understand this aversion to criticizing them. I’m dumbfounded that I find intelligent people [people with bachelor's or at ph.d's degrees, so maybe not necessarily intelligent, but "educated"] defending the original constitution (et al) out of, as far I can tell, nothing more than patriotism.)
Need a few examples? Sure, here ya go: The declaration is a fine work, but I think it no less than fair to call them cowards for removing the bits about the rights and whatnot of women and potential slaves. Sure, it would have been difficult to get everyone to sign, and it would have complicated things, but, even more surely, the fact that they consciously left those problems for later generations warrants a judgment of less than noble (whatever the fuck that means). Time did take care of the problem, as they hoped. And people eventually did their sloppily best to deal with women and slaves (minorities in general, really) in the land called USA, but creating a capacity doesn’t warrant them (if this “them” is too vague, mind that I’m referring to all those wigged good ol’boys from the late 1700s, who primarily lived on the east coast of the USA) authorship or immunity — if you think of it as if you were writing a paper, they’d be in your works cited.
And one more thing.
What the hell is this romantic attachment to the “We the people” bit in the Constitution, particularly the whimsical notion that by people they meant anything other than the 5% who were going to have any hand in being a citizen. You’re right, nowhere in the Constitution does it specify who they mean by “people,” so it could possibly mean everyone residing in the (then) newly formed United States. But look, you’re doing it again; doing the work for them. Yes, they wrote it in a universal language (one might also call it vague), but everything from who was participating in the forming of the government to the people immediately participating as citizens evinces who exactly they meant by “people.”
To the regular readers of the fates, that fine bunch, this all will likely prompt a response somewhere along the lines of “No shit, Sherlock.” But I needed a catharsis. Thanks.
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Tags: Declaration of Independence, US Constitution, US Government, political science

I’m a staunch anti-jingo, but I condone spread-eagleism.
Macdermott’s War Song (187
We don’t want to fight but by Jingo if we do,
We’ve got the ships, we’ve got the men, we’ve got the money too,
We’ve fought the Bear before, and while we’re Britons true,
The Russians shall not have Constantinople.
I think it’s common for a country to glorify and even mythologise its origins. And when I say “country” I mean “rulers.”
you’re probably right that a country’s rulers like to mythologize/glorify their origins; it’s just a little flabbergasting (i’m surprised i care) to witness educated citizens so freely share in the commerce of the myth.
mr. salk — “anti-jingo” — nice one.
I think I may have shared this quote before, but I love pulling it out when I can. I did just last night, so I’m sure that is why I’m sharing it now. It is from Lincoln’s Lyceum Address. I recommend reading the whole thing if time permits you. I’ll post the link below.
“I know the American People are much attached to their Government;–I know they would suffer much for its sake;–I know they would endure evils long and patiently, before they would ever think of exchanging it for another. Yet, notwithstanding all this, if the laws be continually despised and disregarded, if their rights to be secure in their persons and property, are held by no better tenure than the caprice of a mob, the alienation of their affections from the Government is the natural consequence; and to that, sooner or later, it must come.”
http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/lyceum.htm
I hate Lincoln Quotes. I always hear them voiced from Disney Land’s robotic Mr. Lincoln.
mr. salk, you’ve certainly refined the internet art of pithy remarks.
tim, i suppose you’re right to quote lincoln here. he was eager to mythologize the forefathers and their intentions — at least judging by his (sadly) hollow argument against the dred scott decision he put forth in his “springfield speech” june 26, 1857.
Ok..I lied.
Abraham Lincoln once asked a visiting Doctor of Divinity, “Counting a tail as a leg, how many legs does a sheep have?” “Five,” replied the clergyman. Lincoln responded, “No. Pretending a tail is a leg doesn’t make it one.”
that is a fantastic quote.